***This article appears in its entirety in issue #81 of THE ZOCALO Babylon 5 online newsletter. 


An Interview with Richard Biggs at Starcon '96
by
Don Kinney



Richard Biggs has been acting on stage and TV for over a decade. His TV credits include: Days of Our Lives (Dr. Marcus Hunter), Falcon Crest, The Garry Shandling Show, T.J. Hooker, The Twilight Zone.  On stage he's appeared in "Fannon's People", "Look Back in Anger", "Romeo and Juliet", "Shadow Box" and "The Temptest". 

Richard first started acting in community theater in Minot, North Dakota. There wasn't much for kids to do in Minot, an Air Force base, so some of them got a theater group going. Richard fell in love with performing when he was 17 and decided to go to college for acting, knowing then he was making a choice that would affect the rest of his life.

  "I enrolled in two colleges, NYU and USC, and hoped that fate would show me which one.  Both accepted me so I looked at NYU and thought, "Same weather as ND."  Looked at USC and remembered watching a football game and seeing the sun, the green grass and the pretty cheerleaders.  “Yeah, USC.”  Not a hard choice. 

I enrolled in the conservatory program at USC and immersed myself in theater for four years thinking this was one of the steps toward movie stardom. After four years of being exposed to the greats... Shakespeare, Chekov, Strindberg, etc. -- I fell in love with the classics and theater.  I started getting a lot of work in the theater in LA, Oregon, Chicago, all over.  I thought maybe that was what I was supposed to do, be a theater actor.  Until I was doing "Romeo and Juliet" at an outdoor theater in LA and an agent saw me and signed me. Told me to stay in LA for a while, stop doing the regional reperatory theater and he'd get me work on TV. 

So I did T.J. Hooker, Three’s a Crowd, Falconcrest, Dynasty... a gig here, a gig there for about three or four years.  Just enough work to keep me from losing interest in LA.  Then I got a contract on Days of Our Lives and that turned into a five year contract.  I started putting down roots in LA, making a living doing TV.  But after five years on a soap opera I really got turned off by TV.  I felt I was losing my ability to create and my enjoyment of being an actor so I left and went back to NY and the theater.  That's when people started calling me and telling me about “this Babylon 5 thing”.”

Doing theater in NY kept Richard from being in the early search for Dr. Franklin.  He was one of the last people to be seen for the role.  "I thought; I wasn’t going to spend the money to fly out to LA to audition for someone who already knows who they want for the role and they’re just going through the process of auditioning to have something to do because it's their job.  I'd been to too many of those kind of auditions.  So I kept checking with my friends in LA to see if B5 had filled the part and my friends kept saying that they were still looking for an actor.  Finally, I figured I'd go back and give it a try since they hadn't decided.  I thought I had a real shot and it wouldn't be a waste of my time.

I read for the role and really connected to it right off.  It was a doctor role and I felt very comfortable playing the part.  He was a cocky, self-confident type of guy.

 Mary Jo Slater, who was the casting director at that time, had never met me and came up to me to clue me in on what they were looking for in the character.  I cut her short and told her I thought I knew what they were looking for and went in, did my thing and blew them away.  Walked out of there thinking I couldn't do any better.  A couple of days later they asked me back for a second audition. I showed them the same thing as before and two days later I had the part."

"I really didn't take Babylon 5 seriously at first. I figured, 'Syndicated SF show, we'd be lucky to last a season or two as most do, or my character would get killed off.'  I didn't know about the conventions, the loyal fan base, the opportunities for travel that B5 opened up for me.  I thought, 'Film this show in LA until May -- didn't want to spend the winter in NY anyway -- take the money and head back to NY, do some rep theater.'  Things turned out slightly different from my initial plans."

On the difference between playing a recurring role and guest-starring:

"You don't get to know a character as well as you do with a regular role. You're with a character for five years and you read some dialog that someone says Dr. Franklin would say and it doesn't ring true ... the alarm really goes off.  When you're a guest star you don't have the ability ... you take the words, create the character and just kind of fly by night.  There's a good and a bad to that...  In a guest-starring role you're willing to take more risks. You're flying blind so there's more opportunity for things to happen.  The bad is that you don't get to know the character as well ... be comfortable in his shoes, as I am with Dr. Franklin.  I really feel at home in that Medlab, I really feel like a doctor because I've put myself in that position for so many years."

How much of Richard Biggs is in the character of Dr. Franklin?  "Dr. Franklin is extremes.  He's extremely dedicated, extremely self- disiplined,  very hard on himself, he's the best there is.  I'm not as extreme ... not a workaholic like the doctor.  I don't have to be right all the time.  I don't tie my self-esteem to my work like Stephen does. I try to have a little balance in my life.  I have a personal life, Dr. Franklin doesn't.  As for similarities ... we aren't that similar.  He's always very serious, I like to joke around, have some fun.  I'd have to sit a while and think if we have any similarities.  I'm always noticing the differences."

Does Joe Straczynski tell the actors how to deliver their lines in crucial scenes? "Joe pretty much lets us interperet the script.  There are times when I've got some self-doubt about a scene -- especially when he makes me stretch emotionally, verbally.  When he gives me a challenge I tend to go into his office and tell him how I see the scene playing out and try to get some feedback from his side -- how he wants it to go. He never comes right out and says, "This is the way I want it."  He tries to leave that to the actors."

Differences and similarities playing a 23rd-century doctor vs. a 20th- century doctor?  "The similarities are you're a healer ...  your number one focus is to heal and fix the patient.  The differences are you're dealing with things that don't exist.  You're dealing with aliens that don't exist and ailiments that don’t exist, words that really don't exist.  On "Days of Our Lives" and "The Garry Shandling Show" I was dealing with terminology that was real...it was difficult to say but I could define it...look up the definition.  Once I knew what the definition was then I could remember and memorize it and understand it. The difficulty with the information I get as Dr. Franklin is that the words don't really exist, the definition doesn't exist except as something Joe or some other writer made up.  Therefore it's harder for me to memorize something because I can’t really define it concretely. It's a word that doesn t really mean anything."

When Richard started playing the character of Dr. Franklin, he thought the character was very together, with it, right on top of things. Always in control.  By the third season, BAM, drug addict.  Did he do any research into addiction?   "I did a lot of reading.  I hung out with a couple of people who had problems with drug addiction.  I tried to define it, get the definition of how people felt who actually had that problem. I talked to counselors, sat in on meetings with people who had the problem.  I just did a lot of research, a lot of reading.  I wanted the addiction to be gradual...I didn’t want to hit anybody over the head, I wanted it to be a secret that Dr. Franklin was trying to keep. Because of how intelligent this character is, he would be able to keep the secret for quite some time.  I didn't want the audience saying, "Doesn't so-and- so see that?".  So it had to be a subtle change for the audience so that they would believe that none of the characters could see any difference. Then there were the times as the story moved forward that I had to slip and be blatant with the stim use."

Do you watch your own work when it gets to the finished episode? "Rarely.  There are episodes where I'm stretching, when I'm trying something new, I'm thinking,  "Y'know, this is not safe."  I'm taking a risk, I’m trying something different... Then I’ll try to watch it see if I got what I wanted to or if I fell on my face."  

Do you watch the dailies or the complete show?   "I never watch the dailies.  I always rely on the director and me to work it out.  Whatever we do, there it is, y'know." Upcoming Franklin-heavy episodes?   "The next three episodes (starting with "Walkabout") are really going to flesh the character out.  You're really going to understand more about the character and why he does what he does.  He finds himself and why he has this addiction and he calls himself on some of the bullcrap that he puts out there for people to believe.  What he hides behind.  Joe really did a great job of fleshing out the character.  By the end of season three you understand the doctor a little bit more.  That's what I like about Joe.  He easily could of had me just be the doctor and he didn't allow that to happen.  I could have been the guy who comes in, says the medical stuff and leaves."

Is the family atmosphere still prevalent at Babylonian Productions? "I've never been on a show where everyone seems to be happy.  And I think if a spin-off ever happens, or a movie happens you’re going to see everyone go right along with the new show. There's not going to be anyone that's unhappy.  Which very rarely happens on other shows. You've always got someone who's got a gripe.  "I want more screen time..."  or whatever.  It's quite a feat for Joe to be juggling nine...ten characters and all of us are happy."

This concluded the private interview.  Below are some excerpts from Richard's Starcon stage talk.


How much input do the actors have in how the show is run?  "This show is unusual in that we can go into the Executive Producer/Head Writer's office, sit down and ask,  "I don't understand why my character is doing this.  I think he should do this...why don't we investigate this side?" A couple weeks later, a couple of months later you read a script and sure enough, what you were talking about in that meeting is right there in the script.  I've been on shows where they didn’t want you talking to the writers.  They didn't even want you in the executive offices.  It's a very unique position to be in and that's one of the reasons why Babylon 5 is a great show to work on."

What happens to your character in the upcoming episodes?   "This is what happens ... I suddenly see the light after getting stabbed ... having sex. ...  uh, not at the same time.  As I lay there bleeding, I have this conversation with myself where I come to terms and realize I don't need the stims anymore.  Poof!  I'm back on the job."

What's the strangest question you've ever been asked at a convention? "Strangest question ...?  In Boston, some lady asked me if I had ever been sexually attracted to any of the aliens.  I immediately asked for the next question."

A friend sent a convention report from Texas and that got me wondering if "Rochelle" was going to reclaim her title of Miss AggieCon in 1997?   "Um, well, y'see, Miss AggieCon was a beauty contest they were running at this convention and I was supposed to judge it.  I got carried away, competed in it and won!  But if I go back to that con, I’ll definitely try to reclaim my crown.”


Talking about the episode  “Believers”.  "I had auditioned for Babylon 5 and got the role and then the agent and lawyers got involved.  The negotiations were drawn out and offers were going back and forth. Someone at Babylonian Productions sent the  "Believers"  script straight to me, circumventing my agent.  I read the script and just loved it, thought it was a great script.  So I call my agent to ask how the negotiations were going and my agent starts telling me the sticking points.  I cut him off and said,  "Just do it. Just get it signed."  Someone at Babylon 5 (Joe) knew what they were doing when they sent me that script.  I was working on the set within days after that. 

Some of the issues we deal with in the show are many current issues of today. The conflict of religion and medicine and the struggle between beliefs. I remember while working on  "Believers"  I was reading in the paper about the Christian Scientist parents who had let their child die of something modern medical techniques could have fixed to save his life. So it was an emotional script for me, very easy to tap into.  It's been one of my favorites."

What's the funniest thing that's happened on the Babylon 5 set?   "We had a director, a cameraman, John Flinn III, who was directing an episode.  At 12:30 in the afternoon, an hour before lunch, he pulls out a banana.  Every day...like clockwork...12:30...pulls out a banana.  So one day, Claudia brings 60 bananas and gives one to every person on the set.  12:30 ... the director pulls out his banana,  60 people pull out their bananas.  He looks up and sees nothing but bananas...  Jerry and Claudia will crack you up in any scene, no matter how dramatic or how serious.  They are there to make us laugh."

Who do you like working with the most on Babylon 5?   "I like to work with Mira and with Andreas.  They are both serious and very focused actors.  They are willing to risk, gamble, try new stuff.  Great to work with."

Will they bring Franklin's father back into the storyline?  "I don't know, but with Babylon 5 having broken away from the Earth Alliance and his dad being such a big in the EA, plus the conflict they've had in the past.  I think that'd make a great story.  I went to Joe with that idea and being the evasive guy he is, he shrugged his shoulders.  I certainly would look forward to working with Paul (Winfield) again, he's a wonderful actor.  I used to watch him as a kid and it was just great to have him on the set.   I'd get to work early while he was there.  Just kinda hang around and follow him around...ask him questions.  He was like, "Get away...!"  I hope they bring him back because I do like to work with him."


Will there be any more episodes dealing with Franklin and the Underground?  "Yes, there will be, actually.  Last Saturday I was talking to Joe at a dinner.  I was just standing there and he turns to me and says, "Franklin's getting ready to go to Mars."  I thought, "Oh well, Dr. Hunter (his "Days" character) went to LA for that convention.  Now they're sending Franklin to Mars."  I guess I go to Mars to work on the Underground.  Work with the runaway telepaths."

What was the most frustrating episode to film?  "Probably the ones with the most physical stunts in them.  The physical fighting.  Just because we're not stunt people and it takes forever to do these fights so nobody gets hurt.  You know Jerry Doyle broke his arm?  Before that happened he was, (puffing up, acting macho) "I  want to do my own stunts!".  He did his own stunt and broke his arm.  He comes to work one day, his arm all broken,  "So Jerry, you did your own stunts...  Wanna do it again?"

Differences between working with Michael O'Hare and Bruce Boxleitner?
Bruce isn't quite as serious as Michael.  Michael has that flare ... like, I'd follow Michael O'Hare to any battle.  He's got that feel... "I will lead you and we will return -- victorious!"  And Bruce is like, "Hey!  Let's play!..."  Bruce was great when he joined the show.  He could of come in and said,  "Been here.  Done that.  Gonna do it again, someday."  Instead, it was, "I'm the new kid on the block...I have to fit in."  He came in and really worked to be part of the team."

Will Babylon 5 continue to deal with the Shadows?
   "Yeah, well, we have a new enemy now and and it makes the Shadows look like nothing...  And that’s all I'm telling you."

(Asked by a con-goer in Centauri costume.) Which aliens do you dislike less, the Narn or Centauri? 
You can't really _like_ either of them, that's why I asked which you dislike less.   "Hmm, probably the Narn. The Centauri bug me!  They bug the hell out of me!  It's that hair."

Are you a science fiction fan?   "Nah.  NIGHT GALLERY, TWILIGHT ZONE, OUTER LIMITS... ever hear of them?  Back when I was growing up, the TWILIGHT ZONE was on twice a day -- noon and midnight.  So I'd run home from school at lunch and watch TZ and then stay up  til midnight to watch it again.  I never got heavily into Star Trek though I remember watching the original show and I auditioned for the role of Geordi LaForge on TNG. There were a half-dozen of us in there, including LeVar, going for the part and I remember none of us thought it would last."

Did you think you would be doing conventions when you started on Babylon 5?  "I didn't know that the show would allow me the opportunities to travel so  many places and meet so many people, all over the world. London, Ireland ... hopefully Australia ... here in Denver.  And it's all because of people like you.  Thank you."


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